August 28, 2006
1971 Bangladesh, 2007 Balochistan?
Posted by chacko under A Mutineer speaks, Neighbours, News & MediaIs Balochistan going to be the next Bangladesh? There are similarities.
In 1970, a massive cyclone devastated the coast of East Pakistan, and the central government responded poorly. The Bengali population’s anger was compounded when Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, whose Awami League won a majority in Parliament in the 1970 elections, was blocked from taking office. After staging compromise talks with Mujib, President Yahya Khan arrested him on the night of March 25, 1971, and launched Operation Searchlight, a sustained military assault on East Pakistan. Yahya’s methods were extremely bloody, and the violence of the war resulted in many civilian deaths. Chief targets included intellectuals and Hindus.
Now look at Balochistan in the past year,
In January 2006, Indymedia released on its website a 14 minute long amateur video purportedly recorded on March 17 2005 in the town of Dera Bugti, that shows a number of dead bodies including children and signs of mortar shelling. In the video it is alleged that 60 people were killed in the fighting between Baloch nationalists and Pakistani security forces that took place that day.
And now,
Prominent tribal leader Nawab Akbar Bugti was killed in a Pakistani Army missile attack in the restive Balochistan province that also left 38 armed rebels and 21 security personnel dead, triggering massive rioting during which a protester was shot dead.
I don’t get it, Mush bhaijaan. You have created an Azad Kashmir, why can’t you do the same with Balochistan? Why are you using the air force and artillery against your own people? What right do you have to talk about Jammu and Kashmir and other parts of India, if this is what you are doing to your own “freedom fighters”. Maybe you should have a Balochistan solidarity day and offer them “moral” and “diplomatic” support.
August 28, 2006 at 3:05 pm
The parallels with 1971 are clear: massive use of force to control the civilian population; assassination of leaders etc. Like then, the United States—the only power that has any influence over the dictator—is unwilling to as much as mention the matter.
But one parallel is lacking: India. While most of us like to think that Indira Gandhi intervened because she wanted to dismember Pakistan, that was neither the sole factor, or even the most important one. The most important reason she sent Indian troops was to protect India from an economic crisis brought about by an influx of refugees.
The Balochistan problem lacks this dimension. Musharraf will use as much force as he likes to repress the Baloch into submission. The US won’t go beyond lip service. China will encourage Musharraf. India, effectively silenced by the ‘peace process’, will do nothing either. Iran has its own Baloch minority, and won’t support the Baloch struggle (it’s position is analogous to Turkey and the Kurds)
The Baloch people are on their own. They can’t count on decisive outside help. Can their rebellion survive the well-equipped, no-holds barred, unaccountable Pakistan army? I won’t bet on it.
August 28, 2006 at 3:44 pm
i seriously doubt Balochistan is going to get indian backing. and that could be all the difference between a repeat of ‘71 and pakistan’s very own naxal-like guirella militant group.
August 28, 2006 at 3:58 pm
Nitin, while I agree with you that the Baloch issue looks like taking the Kurdish route, there is a wild card at play here. The length of Musharraf’s rule. What happens if Musharraf is no longer around? As it happened with Zia. What if a new democratic regime takes control and holds the army accountable for it’s actions? Will the army be able to do the same as they are now? Also, the Balochis now have a martyr hero.
My instinct tells me that India will never sign anything with Musharraf. We will talk but none of his ‘ideas’ such as joint control etc will be agreed. I think not trusting Musharraf is one of the rare instances in which there is consensus across the Indian political spectrum.
I also think this issue will dent any credibility (if there were any to start with) the Pakistanis have on their support for the Kashmir “cause”. Each time they bring up the Indian army’s rights record and right to self determination in the valley, we should ask them why they are not doing the same in Balochistan?
August 28, 2006 at 9:52 pm
India should provide full diplomatic, political and moral support to the Balochis in the same manner the Pakis are providing to the Kashmir rebels.
August 30, 2006 at 2:59 pm
It is such a shame that India decided to voice its ‘concerns’ on the Balochistan issue. Now, who looks like a fool?
August 30, 2006 at 3:13 pm
What shame. Unstable Pakistan is something to be concerned about. An Unstable East Pakistan lead to the 1971 war and the creation of Bangladesh. What is there to be ashamed about? Please explain.
August 30, 2006 at 11:02 pm
Beau peep,could u plz provide an explanation as to why we ended up looking like fools.And insurgency in any part of south east asia,directly or indirectly affects our country.the balochs should protest against the killing of thier leader in so brutal a manner.They keep talking about the atrocities committed by the Indian army in Kashmir but then what is this.looks like the prez is having a hard controling his men.I hope he realises that the kalashnikov culture that has been prevalent for so long in Pakistan is not going to help.From the look of things the prez’s days seem to be numbered.He might just about be very cleverly eliminated like General Zia ul haq
August 31, 2006 at 3:10 am
If I were in the seat of power in India I would definitely have used this opportunity to dismember Pakistan once more.
With intense/hysterical Propaganda launched by the Indian press. With Bigger and Blacker headlines everday and massive mobilization of India’s conventional and nuclear forces for the final “Mahayudhh”.
Tukda in the East 1971 -> Republic of Bangladesh
Tukda in the West 2006 -> Republic of Balochistan
“Ek Maar, Do Tukda”.
I would have given Pakistan the “Jhatka”. I believe an Independent Balochistan is in India and the US’s interest. We need to act fast.
We need to “smash” Pakistan and do it with lightning speed.
Once Baluchistan seperates. Sindh will follow.
Sindh and Punjab will be like two pieces of cheese to swallow.
With Sindh and Punjab gone. Who do you think will be talking of Kashmir ?
HUH ?
August 31, 2006 at 10:30 am
I doubt balochistan will go Bangladesh’s way. One of the main reason Bangladesh happened was that Pakistan was totally cut off from it. It couldnot provide much support and they crumbled. Also,China, Iran Pak US and central Asian countries have invested heavily in Balochistan. Pak will do anything to save it as it accounts for 40% of Pak size, all natural resources. If Balochistan gets liberation, it would be tough for US to deal with new government. They have invensted loads of time and money to coerce Pak to help him contain Taliban. It would be just too tough.
But now Pak will experience the pain and frustation, a continous bloody proxy battle. Its good for India coz now they have to divert their attention to Balochistan which certainly will help India cause in Kashmir. Let Pak know that it is full of extremists and radicals which will one day tore it apart.
August 31, 2006 at 3:26 pm
He has a point in his comments. The case of Bangladesh was a bit different as it was away from Pak to provide help in full throttle. And in this case, as Baloch is rich in its reserviours which draws huge money to Pak economy, Mush will have to think twice before he rages war on it.Winning the war MAY NOT be that much difficult for him but the repercussions that he has to face as the aftermath of it may be very severe. So,I think he will try to be as deplomatic as possible on this issue.
August 31, 2006 at 3:58 pm
@Sumasuta: The issue is not what India has to do or not do. by his actions Musharraf has given a big boost to voices of ‘azadi’ in Balochistan. This will have an impact of their Kashmiri cause.
August 31, 2006 at 3:59 pm
Well, its in his best interests to be diplomatic.War cannot solve problems.A huge chunk of pakistan’s revenue comes from Baluchistan but its so poorly developed.Pakistan should spend more time solving its own problems rather than interfering in our matters.
August 31, 2006 at 4:22 pm
Well said “War cannot solve problems”. Its really interesting to wait and watch what may be the next step by Musharraf! But it certainly takes bit of their attention away from Kashmir. Now the terrorist groups in the PoK and around LoC will certainly get less oxygen from the Pak Govt. This serves a good deed for India.
September 3, 2006 at 1:57 pm
[...] Both Pakistani and foreign commentators have begun to draw parallels between the Musharraf regime’s killing of Nawab Bugti and the Gen Yahya Khan regime’s genocide in East Bengal in 1971. The latter led to the breakup of Pakistan and the emergence of Bangladesh as an independent nation. Bugti’s killing, it is being argued, may now cause Balochistan to go the same way. On the face of it, such a comparison sounds plausible. But a more careful analysis reveals several important differences that challenge this argument. [...]
September 5, 2006 at 11:08 am
In my opinion and seeing the things in bigger prespective, it is preety clear that india, USSR and USA has the interest in baluchistan, now the question arises WHY, well the answer is GAWADER which will ultimatly give the way to china and central asian states to deep water.
Baluchistan is a gold mine as it will overturn the fate of this region. You can find this piece of info even on internet that these countries which have been mentioned have their own interests, and our leaders become puppet in their hands.
September 9, 2006 at 9:25 pm
Did you guys know that Indian infantry kept training Northen Aliance , provided them Hospitals & intelligence in days of Talibans .
during days of US invasion of Afganistan , Indian agencies provided vital intelligence to throw out talibans out of power. India is a slient but major player , it comes out with a big bang not like a small time bomb killing 50-100 people a time. game is on , time is clicking . afghan border is indian border now for use. balochistan will be a nation soon. separating it is equally important as of surviving in coming decades for india.
-HHMD
Saraswat
October 13, 2006 at 4:21 pm
As a Bangladeshi, I will be very glad. If pakistan loses one more teritory.
Pakistan is a republic, full of brainless people. They wont learn, as they dont have brain.
Inshallah Belochistan would be an independent country. May allah lead them in that path.
November 15, 2006 at 10:54 am
Mush is an ass. Baloch deserves independence from Pak.
November 29, 2006 at 12:16 am
Well Well Well, here i see Hindu mind once again, playing the dirty game, seeing the same old dream of Akhand Bharat, which spread all over the world. This one page alone proves “Two Nations Theory”.
Please take care of about a dozen, if not more, insurgencies in India. Take into cognizance United Nations resolutions and by the way, must remember what did China do with you in 1962 War.
Pakistan is a nuclear country, enough to make you Indians remain awake at nights. If we had a country as big as yours, we would have pissed enough to drown you all.
And just by the way, when ever you guys talk big, must remember that in last 7000 years, you have neve been able to intrude outside, and called all intruders your fathers, which include Muslims from all sides and all parts of the world. You are the dirtiest minded people in the world, nurturing crisis of identity, not been able to know your place
November 29, 2006 at 1:14 pm
Thank you Pakistan for your thoughts. We will keep this comment here as a testament to why there can never be peace between India and Pakistan as long as SOBs like you are around.
December 6, 2006 at 3:46 am
India should provide unrelenting support to any insurgency in Pakistan. It is about time that the Puki’s get a taste of their own medicine. The dumb Puki Bastards do not recogonize the sheer force, that is India. From their very birth, PUKI’s have survived on handouts from the west and the middle east in form of food subsidy or military aid. Paki’s are Bhookhay Bhikhari’s they might consider themselves to be the kings of the world. Low Morals and low values, what else can you expect from these gutter ke keeday’s.
December 6, 2006 at 3:51 am
For Mr. Pakistan’s comments. At least our messiah is not sleeping with a 6 year old and by the way, you’re also a product of the same muslims…. Your forefathers were weak enough to convert when pressured by the mullahs… The present day hindu’s didn’t. Khairat ke nuclear arsnel ko bund mein le kar detonate karo. Shayad kuch akl aa jaai bhikhariyoN. Waise 48,65,71 mein bahot tareekay se pitaai huwi hai pakistan ki.. Maa Baap bhai behan, sab chodi thee indian army ne tumhari… and how do you forget the creation of Bangladesh? Got FUcked EH? Still hurts and brings tears to Mushy’s eyes till date…So if I were you, i wouldn’t bring it up.
Vande Mataram
January 16, 2007 at 1:01 am
Well. I would like to suggest indians here that first they should think abt their own home. If there is one balouchistan then wat the hell is going on in Kashmir, Assam, Nagaland, Tri pora, Aronachal perdesh, Sikim. Indians should also talk about their Nixils, Tamils, Mao’s,Communists. They should try to know wat they r demanding for.They should try to think Y ULFA (United Liberation Front of Assam) had killed 70 hindi speaking people in Jan 2007 in Assam.
January 16, 2007 at 10:41 am
Thanks Sal. We will think about all this. Nice to know you know the names of our states and extremist groups
March 4, 2007 at 11:06 pm
Name of province: Balochistan
Area: Almost 50 per cent land of Pakistan
Geographical Importance:A rocky area full of minerals like oil,gas,gold,coal and almost 90 per cent coastal area of Pakistan.
Being a Baloch i would like to say,Baloch has never accepted slavery in his history. Baloch is fighting for his land and rights. Baloch’s land is being occupied by outsiders. And many Punjabi,Bengali,Muhajir colonies are going to be made on our land for changing Baloch’s majority into minority. We don’t support any Pakistani devoloping projects in Balochistan which changes our majority into minority. We don’t support the idealogy of Pakistan, becuase Balochistan was a seperate state before independence of Pakistan. Balochistan has never been a part of Pakistan. Baloch people were forced to join Pakistan, since then Pakistan has ingnored the rights of Baloch people. Gas, oil, gold and coal is being taken out from Balochistan since 1950 but in Balochistan has been kept bakcward in all basic facilities. Whenever we claimed our rights to Pakistani government she just gave us bombs in return.
We want freedom, we dont want to be the part of Pakistan. We dont want to be like Red Indians on our land. We strongly support Baloch Liberation Army (BLA) movement in Balochistan. We will die but, we will never give our land to any outsiders. Struggle till victory.
We apeal to UNO to help Baloch people and give them independence from Paksitan. And we also apeal to international media to show the Balochistan crisis.
October 23, 2007 at 3:21 am
Dear Indian’s .
The thing is India or Indians are victems of their self generated Hype . The Indian’s dont forget their level of Poverty and call us ‘gutter kae keeray’ . As ‘Pakistan’ mentioned the names more than 6 Indain states ask for freedom and have a even more greater number of people involved. India is economically growing but is leaving wide gap between its privileged and and not so privileged class ,which is giving rise to a even greater class society ,Corruption is something India cant control is also on the rise . So the bottom line is better see in your own pants before stripping others clothes . As my Baluchi Brother is concerned ,Brother dont mind but balochistan can only progress as part of pakistan cause it does not have enough population to support it , Education has to improved there and will be we have port there and soon be fully funtional and all the world is lokking forward for it local balochis would get the most of it as it prospers becuase it has to done for the local people and after then comes the right of other statesmen.
January 31, 2008 at 6:31 am
BLOACHS AND PAKHTOON R MORE PAKISTANI THAN PUNJABIES OR SIDHIES ALSO NOT LESS THAN KASHAMIRIES I WANTS TO TELL U ONE THING AND MIND IT PAKISTAN NEVER WILL SMALLER PAKISTAN WILL GRETER COUNTRY DESPITE THE FOOLISHNESS OF OUR RULER WE WILL SERVIVE WITH THE HELP OF ALLAHA ALMIGHTY INSHAALLAHA WE WILL GREATER NATION ONE DAY AND TIME WILL TELL OUR ENEMIES WHO THINKS ABOUT PICES OF PAKISTAN IS LIVING IN PARADISE OF FOOLISHNESS NOW I WILL LIKE TO ADDRESS OUR ENEMIES DO U THINK U COULD COULD FIGHT WITH NATION OF TEN MILLION GURILLA FULLY TRAINED MUJAHAIDEN TO FIGHT WITH ANY MODERN ARMY WHICH THEY HAVE PROVEN IN PAST AND SIXTY MILLION PEOPLE LOADED WITH AUTOMATIC AND SEMI AUTOMATIC WEAPON I HAD NOT MANIOTON OUR ELDERS WOMEN AND CHILDERN WHOM COULD ALSO FIGHT FOR THE SAKE OF THEIR COUNTRY IHAD ALSO NOT MANTION SEVEN LAKH PAKISTAN ARMY AND FIVE LAKH PERA MILTARY FORCES AND OUR NEUCLER AND MISSILE PROGROM I MUST SAY WHOLE WORLD SHOULD THANKS TO PAKISTAN ARMY AND GOVERMENTS WHICH R TRYING TO PRVENT AND SAVE WORLD BY KILLING THEIR OWN PEOPLE AND STOPPING THEM NOT TO ATTACK AGAINST WORLD